And lets put it in a movie that takes place two years after Israel invaded Lebanon. It’s a nice ending for a bad man. Wonder Woman 1984. Dealing With Racism as a Black Woman Entering Into a White Family, Wanda Maximoff Exemplifies the Fear of Women as Witches. Yeah, yeah, I know how this sounds. Is it just silly to think that the items I mentioned above are strangely coincidental? Is Diana meant to be symbolically healing the divide? The point of a limit/constraint is to create tension, move the plot along, or allow you to explore a concept. I hope I like the next one. I was really hoping this could be one good thing that came out of 2020, but NOPE. Pedro pascal and Kristen wiig were insane tho. I just didn’t buy it. But to understand why you have to be familiar simultaneously with the actual Wonder Woman comics from the 80s AND with a very specific event story from 2005. Last edited by Geraldofrivia; 06-26-2019 at 11:33 AM. Diana can ‘fly’ about as well as FFH Spider-Man can ‘fly’, which is really a glide. John Scalzi, proprietor – JS There’s not much action and mostly they spend time kvetching about their problems and failing at heroing and it’s amazing. I loved the first Wonder Woman. About the (lack of) 80s music, during the80s D.C. had one of the great alternative music stations, WHFS! As for WW84… I could not agree more with the post. Maybe this only made sense to people who grew up in the 80s, but Maxwell Lord seemed like a great personification of corporate greed and malfeasance of the 80s. Your title WTF sums it up pretty well. The gold armor is the new iconic look, one I’m personally not a big fan of, but it was still enough to make an ad campaign around it.    It was empowering and groundbreaking to see our first massive female-led superhero film directed by a female director. I hated the lack of time, and I’m only glad we didn’t waste money on tickets to see it in a theater. Being set in the 80’s, they could have made a point about that “you can have it all” stuff that had so saturated culture at that time, but nope. This show is the WW84 of Marvel. I know you are gonna knock this on out of the park as well. Then, there’s a huge, drawn-out, stunningly unexciting road chase scene where Diana and Steve fight a private Egyptian security force that’s defending Lord. We have enough of that going around right now that it’s unnerving to watch miserable people onscreen when I signed up for over-the-top action sequences featuring heroes with fanny packs. She just… has it. And it’s bad writing being enforced by higher-ups not involved in the fandom, in the story, in the film-making process (beyond taking meetings and screaming at marketing interns later when the product doesn’t either get serious Academy Award consideration or high nine figures at the box office). Of course they say they want to get to the bottom of it, like how it happened and why, but they don’t actually seem to care about the person involved. If you don’t know those things and just come at this movie fresh, then you just see the mess. Something about the posing of her body and the way they shot every fling in slow-motion just looked… wrong. You could argue it stops the movie in its tracks, but there wasn’t much movement prior to the lecture. Quite frankly, it shocked me so much that it’s going to be my major takeaway from this film. If you go to IMDb, his character is literally listed as “handsome man”. Whether she knew it or not, all she needed to do was to convince Max Lord to revoke his wish. Agreed, Athena! I truly hope that her FX in close up is nothing like CATS and all about makeup/prosthetics. People expect the big SFX fight at the end of superhero movies). WW84 is yet another disappointing sequel that makes the first film look like a masterpiece by comparison.Wonder Woman 1984, like its predecessor, is a movie that’s too long and paced far too steadily to be a satisfying comic-book action blockbuster. Further, the Egypt sequence is far from the movie’s only issue with race and stereotyping. The scene was disposable, and the important information it was trying to give us felt glazed over as a result. @kevin, Jenkins said she considered Snyder’s use of WW as non-canonical, as he did things with the character she said she never wanted to do (I personally consider everything Synder does as non-canonical smirk). Or was this exactly what Jenkins wanted? Overall, we though WW84 was decent. 1. I found several reviews of the film, most of which were…reasonably complimentary?! No problem, we’ll just make her weak and continue making her weaker- all because of her girly girly love for a man. Can we talk about how bad all the web-slinging, I mean lasso flinging looked? I, too, was disappointed in this offering. The mall fight looked like a cartoon! Did they not run one single focus group? So, yeah, Wonder Woman: 1984 was kind of a bust. What would I do if unexpectedly he came back in someone else’s body? In the first WW movie, she wasn’t even allowed to train in the Amazon Olympics/train over all, till she was a teenager. Hey, c’mon. Because that undoes everything you gained from the wish that also undid every wish he granted to anyone else. It seems unlikely she could renounce her wish while they were doing CPR on her, or that she’d even be aware of the necessity. More Love Interests Who Aren’t Intimidated by Strong Women, Please! Why are so many of them being dangled off mall balconies or playing in the streets when she’s around? Argh! My conclusion: Patty Jenkins is a fine director. Despite all of this, I wanted to like the film. FFS, give women villains other motivations besides “I’m mousy and no one notices me.” Give her a motivation that drives the thematic arc: maybe she’s brilliant in her field but had important research stolen, maybe she focuses on an area of antiquity the museum decides is no longer worth supporting, SOMETHING besides “I want to be NOTICED,” FFS! 2 things. So what this movie is actually trying to do is to take the 2005 story, mimic its plot beats, and then subvert it right at the end in the way that Perez might have done — by having Diana appeal to Max’s humanity and his soul, and to have that actually work. So why do so many movies with huge budgets fall down on things that could have been fixed very cheaply at the script stage? See the latest Big Ideas! At least Ludendorff died! It’s a dead horse to point out that the frequently delayed WW84 is venturing into uncharted territory as the spearhead of Warner Bros.’ new release plan, but the fact remains the Gal Gadot-led superhero sequel’s place as the first blockbuster to released simultaneously on streaming and theatrically on the same day, remains a substantial development for post-COVID audiences. The movie seems to think that simply flashing to reaction shots from people of color and including them in the background serves for a diverse film. None of it technically happened. This movie really did as much as possible to remind us that Wonder WOMAN was a WOMAN, an extremely HETEROSEXUAL and NURTURING woman who is extremely unthreatening to men. I didn’t like the particle beam tv take-over touchy macguffin. Categories News Tags movie, review, Wonder Woman 1984, ww84. And have a great day! In WW84, transporting the timeline simply feels like one of those ideas that sound good on paper, as nothing about the 80s — particularly the music, as there’s not a single 80s song in the film! 0. Seeing him die gave Diana that essential burst of anger, that rage that gave her the strength to defeat Ares. Rightfully condemned. “I will never love again?” Seriously?? I had almost all these thoughts while watching, including the one about how those kids would have been demolished when WW fell so hard. I can only say that my husband passed two years ago, and my daughter and I still mourn him, in some ways as much today as the day he passed. We need to hit the reset button.”. And yes yes yes on all the consent issues with Steve.